Propaganda is making the Truth Movement Totally Irrelevant
There are innumerable propaganda campaigns being launched within what has become known as the Truth Movement. I would like to discuss a few of the most prominent aspects of these campaigns, in the hopes of helping folks weed through some of the disinformation. We are going to have to understand the true nature of what we are dealing with if we are ever going be able to make an effective stand against it.
With the popularization of the internet and the monumental increase in the accessibility of information, it was necessary to subvert and neutralize any grassroots opposition to the coming global system and the mechanisms behind it, which would inevitably form if given the chance, by any means necessary. The preferred method for doing this has been to take the basic truths about what is happening, mix it with bizarre, fantastical, or emotionally significant propaganda, and then create “leaders” to distribute this tainted information.
What happens is that people are intrinsically drawn to the truth that is given by these seemingly heroic leaders that they are presented with. They then accept the disinformation that said truth is mixed with, as a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down, and because they have begin to idolize the leaders that they have been given, as it often seems humans are genetically programmed to do.
The first major result of this is that when a person tries to share the true information with other people, it is immediately dismissed, as they will not only relay the actual hard facts, but also disinformation, which falls into the category of “conspiracy theory” (the term “conspiracy theorist” has been popularized by the media as a derogatory term for anyone who does not accept the official propaganda line; sadly, many people have taken this term, and now refer to themselves as such). In fact, if one were to simply present the official plan by the elite of the world to create a one world scientific state, there would be no need for any type of theorizing, as the people and organizations planning this agenda have been rather straightforward about where they intend to take the world in their own publications over the last 100 years.
The second major result is that the various groups, following their respective leaders, fight with one another exponentially more than they attempt to inform others about what is happening. This is hopeless in the extreme, and seems to be escalating every day, as people are driven by their own egos, rather than a genuine desire to save our species from the hell that awaits it.
If we are able to cut through the mass of disinformation, and get to the heart of what is happening, we can all work together to present this global conspiracy in a factual manner to those around us, thus leading a greater portion of the public into a movement geared at developing realistic means of creating a real future for humanity.
There is a propaganda campaign geared at each and every personality type. Some of the propaganda lines encourage people to develop tunnel vision when looking at the global agenda, focusing on one group, when in fact the system is monolithic in nature, encompassing all institutions of power across the globe. Others neutralize people by pushing them off into religious or semi-religious fantasy. Both methods are equally effective.
I doubt that anyone reading this will not be offended by some aspect of it. I am not asking you to agree with everything I present here; I am merely asking you to read it, and instead of dismissing it immediately, let it stew in your brain for a while. Perhaps you will have an epiphany.
I am not prepared to call out anyone in particular as a government agent, I simply wish to state my criticism of the various elements of the Truth Movement. Propaganda may be distributed knowingly or unknowingly, and unless direct evidence is provided against someone, there is really no way of knowing for certain what the true circumstances are. However, it seems clear that a large percentage of the people working in this field are probably doing so with the blessing of the ruling powers, if not working directly for them. We all remember when the right-wing pundits of AM radio were called into a meeting with George Bush, to discuss propaganda strategy. I have no reason to believe that the alternative media does not function in a similar, though much more clever way. The American shortwave radio circuit was originally setup by the CIA, supposedly to combat Soviet propaganda, and the government has admitted to using the internet for counterintelligence operations. These are things one should certainly keep in mind when analyzing these self-professed beacons of truth.
For the sake of simplicity, I will try to separate each piece of propaganda into a category. In reality, all of the campaigns mix various pieces together, to form mind-boggling propaganda collages. Below are brief summarizations of the origins and effects of the main elements of the propaganda campaigns as they are presented by the would-be leaders of this movement.
The Alien Agenda
One of the largest and most bizarre disinformation campaigns is based around the concept of beings from other planets somehow being involved with or responsible for the conspiracy. David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxwell, the Red Ice Creations web radio program, and the biggest of all, the Coast to Coast AM radio program (founded by Freemason and advocate of world government, Art Bell), are among those presenting this view and mixing it all up with the facts. They play off of the endless amount of science fiction that a large percentage of the western world has been fascinated by for decades.
All of this started in the 50’s, when the CIA began working with film studios to produce movies about invasion from outer space. Given that humans are biologically designed to base their understanding of the world on their own experiences, the simulated experience of audio visual entertainment directly manipulates an individual’s perception of reality on a subconscious level.
Originally this propaganda was invented as a means to see if they could get enough people to believe in the possibility of an actual invasion from outer space. If they could, the idea was that they would stage a fake one, and use it as a means to create a world government, following the script of The Day the Earth Stood Still. This idea was thrown out by the Club of Rome, one of the high level think-tanks which scripts world events; they chose instead to use the manmade global warming mythology as the world unification mechanism. The Alien Agenda is still used as a psychological operation against those who are waking up to the truth.
It is also a very effective means of covering up the fact that the government has had the technology and has been building anti-gravity planes for decades; anyone who sees one assumes it must be aliens, and is afraid to discuss it for fear of ridicule, or does discuss it and is looked at as insane.
The Alien Agenda has been largely promoted by mainstream media outlets such as the Discovery Channel and the History Channel, and has now moved even further into the arena of what are generally thought of as “respectable publications”, being routinely reported on by major newspapers. Many of the UFO groups are funded by the United Nations, and the Disclosure Project was bankrolled by the Rockefellers.
The largest part of the Alien Agenda is entirely based on the erroneous scholarship of the Freemason Zachariah Sitchin. Sitchin is a professor of ancient Near Eastern studies, who despite the ridicule of every single expert in his field, has incessantly pushed the idea that ancient aliens from a planet called Niburu came to earth and altered human DNA in order to create a creature capable of doing labor for them. He does this by asserting the characters of Babylonian Mythology, which others would argue simply symbolize various aspects of human existence in the same manner as the gods of Greek, Roman, Egyptian, or any other mythology, are in fact real entities from outer space.
I have no desire to discuss whether or not the existence of aliens somewhere in the universe is likely or unlikely. The fact is there is absolutely no evidence that aliens from outer space are present here on earth, or have ever been.
Those who believe we are fighting technologically advanced creatures from outer space, which in fact created us in the first place, are helpless to do anything to oppose the agenda. How can you fight the beings who created you? They also live in a fantasy world where nothing is objectively true, and thus are much less serious than those who look at the facts exclusively. They are among those who refer to themselves as “conspiracy theorists”, and they consider the quest to understand what is going on in the world as more of a hobby than the key element of a life and death situation.
New Age Solutions
The New Age religion was invented by the Freemasons, and is in fact simply a rehashing of the official dogma of Freemasonry, which is in turn based on the ancient Mystery religions, the most prominent modern incarnation of which is Hinduism. There is actually nothing “new” about it.
The official magazine of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, now simply called “The Scottish Rite Journal, was from the early 1900s up through the 1970s, entitled The New Age Magazine. They discussed in this magazine how they would bring in the New Age religion, under a psudeoscientific guise, to overtake Christianity, Islam, and the other old religions. Freemasonic scholar Manly P. Hall wrote extensively about this coming new religion. The Theosophical society, given a Masonic charter and founded in 1875 by Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, was intended to bring women into the religion of Freemasonry. The writings of Blavatsky and her followers, along with the works of Freemason and MI-6 agent Aleister Crowley, laid down the entire premise for the New Age religion. Though the New Age movement is a thriving religion in and of itself, widely promoted by such individuals as Deepak Chopra and Oprah Winfrey, I would like to focus here on how it is being incorporated into the Truth Movement, using pieces of truth as a vehicle to recruit adepts into the fold of this neo-Masonic system.
The New Age religious propaganda within the Truth Movement is usually, but not always, coupled with the Alien Agenda. The afore mentioned promoters of the Alien Agenda are all also promoters of the New Age religion.
The key dogma of the New Age religion is that there is Kabbalistic doctrine that there is no truth other than the truth of the individual’s own belief system. From this stems the ideology that reality is an illusion, and that human beings are able to effect change in the physical world by simply thinking about it. The people promoting this concept within the context of the Truth Movement are talking about using these magic powers to fight the New World Order.
David Icke and others parroting him have claimed that if we stop thinking about the negative things that are happening, the people in control (who he believes are actually space lizards) will stop being able to use the energy of our thoughts, and then the whole system will simply disappear and we will all be free. Michael Tsarion, follower and promoter of both Crowley and Blavatsky, says we can use divination and tarot cards to channel our spirit energy to fight them. And so on. I should not have to explain that if in fact reality is real, which I hope most people still believe to be the case, making people believe that it isn’t would be very beneficial to those in power.
Being that the New Age religion is basically Pantheism, it has all sorts of different themes, all of which are being mixed in with the Truth Movement. These include many different aspects of Freemasonry, such as sacred numerology and geometry, past lives, the Sacred nature of ancient Atlantis, etc., as well as even more bizarre concepts, such as using drugs to contact creatures from other dimensions (a concept heavily promoted by Alistier Crowley) and setting pieces of metal and quartz into resin shapes as a way to harness the energy of the orgasm to fight the negative energy released by cell phone towers.
The New Agers also have their own version of the Christian “Rapture” (described below), with their 2012 mythology. They believe, based on some very shoddy (read: made up) scholarship claiming that the Mayan Calendar (most scholars in the field admit they don’t even know if it is a calendar) supposedly predicting the dawn of a New Age in the year 2012. There is also a large body of fabricated science talking about a galactic alignment that no actual astronomer has ever even heard of. The idea is that some energy within the universe will come and cleanse the planet of “negative energy”, and maybe bring some sort of technological utopia with it. Conversely, some New Agers claim that all life will be wiped from earth. It is all a laugh-down-your-sleeve inside joke of the elite who are funding this propaganda, as the plan is to have the United Nations take over as supreme world government in the year 2012. Many of the New Agers will celebrate this.
The most disturbing aspect of the New Age movement is it’s obsession with channeling disincarnate entities. This is sometimes under the guise of alien being or inter-dimensional super-intelligences speaking through people, and sometimes under the guise of ascended masters reincarnating into people and asserting control over their bodies. This is also a key part of Hinduism and Freemasonry. I believe this practice of channeling is very dangerous. One should never allow or believe to allow an outside entity into ones own mind.
The New Age is incredibly fascinating, even to ones such as myself who are able to see through it. I have found the works of Sitchin and Von Daniken to be very entertaining. Many of the people caught up in the New Age movement are simply fascinated by all of the journeys of the imagination the leaders of the movement are taking them on, and are eventually able to break out of it. I have been contacted by many people who have discovered my work, who described to me the epiphanies they came to, breaking free and seeing the New Age Agenda for what it is. For these people there is hope. Regrettably, there are many within the movement who can be called “true believers”, and just as the followers of any dogmatic religion, they will not be swayed. These people can be left to their fantasies and 320$ DVD sets, and the real Truth Movement will be all the better for their having done so.
Jesus Will Save Us
I am not opposed to using the teachings of Jesus Christ as a source from which to draw one’s personal spiritual and moral outlook on life. In fact, I think this is very admirable, if one is true to the essence of the teachings. Sadly, most Christians are not true to the teachings themselves, and instead follow the mass propaganda that has been distributed by the corporate Christian establishment over the last 100 years or so. Because this is something with deep emotional ties, as it is propaganda that one receives as a child in a brilliantly manipulative way, those who begin to learn the truth about what is happening can often be funneled back into irrelevancy when facts are mixed with the New Agey science fiction that is modern Christianity.
The leaders of this particular branch of truth movement propaganda preach that “Jesus is the answer”, not in the sense that if we are guided by the teachings of Christ we will be able to effectively combat the global agenda, but in the sense that if we do nothing, Jesus will come down from outer space and save us.
I am not going to go into a dissertation on the history of dispensationalist Christianity here, but the “Rapture”, which is the New Age idea that Jesus will come down out of the sky to save everyone from the “end times”, was invented in the 1800s by a man named John Nelson Darby, and had not hitherto been a part of Christian eschatology.
Many Christians who are informed about the general workings of things believe it is all being done by God as part of some plan he has, and that if they were to fight against it, they would be fighting against God himself. They also believe that if they simply wait and watch it all happen, Jesus will come down out of the sky and save them.
As long as people believe that what is happening is God’s will, and they cannot fight it, they won’t. Combine this fatalistic perspective with the notion that they will all be saved from suffering when Jesus comes down out of the sky to save them, and you have completely neutralized an entire body of otherwise well informed people.
There is no God in heaven who would force this hellish future upon his creation. I believe we were created by some thing for some purpose, and that purpose is most certainly not to sit by and wait for hell to break loose, claiming that our inaction is in accordance with the will of God. A benevolent Creator would allow us to choose our own path, and that is what we must do. A choice not to act is still a choice, and by choosing inaction, the Christians are dooming themselves to unimaginable hell.
The Christian perspective on the conspiracy is often combined with or played off against the New Age conspiracy movement.
Taking Back America
Though I understand the instinctive desire people have to defend their homeland and their way of life, what is called the American Patriot Movement, promoted all over the internet by followers of the shows which air on Genesis Communications Network and Republic Broadcasting Network, is for the most part chasing a rapidly fading dream. We can not ever return to the way this country once was, not through political means, nor through violent revolution. America is gone forever. We have been completely integrated with the global system to such an extreme degree. This is no going back. We can only move forward.
We are not going to elect Ron Paul to save us, as the media controls elections, and if that were not the case, the Diebold voting machines do, and if somehow he did get elected, they would kill him. I was supportive of Ron Paul when he first started, as it was exciting to see someone actually presenting real issues to the general public. Quickly though people stopped understanding that this was the point, and started believing he could somehow win, take office, and save the world. It was utterly ridiculous, and I think it created a lot of disillusion among the people who got caught up in it.
Neither are we going to fight some civil war against the government. I have a sort of respect for the gun-toting Rednecks who believe this is possible, but they are living in a fantasy world no different from the people talking about 12-foot-tall talking lizards from outer space. The government wants us to fight them with guns. They have been planning this scenario for decades, building up this internal army of cops under the guise of the drug war. They have admitted in the recent DoD report, DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme 2007-2036 (pdf), that they are going to spray us with chemical gas and nuke us if we riot when the system collapses. They also have futuristic space weaponry, capable of targeting a person with satellite based lasers. Violent revolution is exactly what we do not need.
When analyzing the Patriot Movement, one must also consider that these people are making an incredible amount of money. Of course, all of the people involved in the “leadership” of any of these movements are making money (which I personally find very hard to reconcile, given the monumental importance of all of this), but the Patriots make it in a very specific, exploitative way: they sell fear. All of the products they advertise, from gold to solar power to terror attack preparation supplies to body cleansing formulas, are sold to people who are scared of what is happening or going to happen. When selling fear, one must keep their target market constantly afraid. Though this is a very effective marketing strategy, I think there is a bigger agenda behind it. When people are in a state of endless fear, they become almost catatonic; they are incapable of thinking strait, and thus incapable of even functioning properly in their personal lives, let alone effectively combating the system.
These fear-based broadcasters bring their listeners to this state by creating hysteria, blowing things out of proportion, and also by overloading people with rapid bursts of information in an erratic and overwhelming fashion. I myself stopped updating my old news site, on which I would post at least 100 articles a week, and switched to this present format, due to the response I was getting from readers, which seemed to be very panicked and confused. This is called “information overload”. Understanding every minute detail of everything that is happening is unnecessary. We need only to understand the big picture, and then the details are irrelevant.
The people involved in the Patriot Movement are not far off base. They simply need to come to terms with the fact that we are never going fight this system using their system of politics, nor are we going to fight it using their system of violent warfare. Many of the broadcasters are beginning to take baby-steps toward putting things into a larger context, and I sincerely hope that this upward trend in the quality of Patriot radio will continue indefinitely. Perhaps the disillusion surrounding this Ron Paul fiasco will help move them in the right direction. Most of those who call themselves Patriots are very well informed, and given this, along with their vast numbers, getting them to the point where they can really effect change by seeing the system for exactly what it is and hitting ot head-on is probably our best hope.
Jesuits and the Black Pope Control Everything
The entire “Jesuits run the planet” propaganda movement appears to stem from one man, a very silly snake oil salesman named Eric John Phelps. It is also promoted by RBN broadcaster Greg Szymanski, supposed “Illuminati defector” Leo Zagami, and others who all generally parrot Phelps. Phelps’ main tactic is to go into long spiels about the actions of the Masons or the Jews, giving real information, and then at the end attach some nonsensical reason why they are all controlled by the Vatican. It is almost impossible to believe that anyone buys this stuff, as it is by far the weakest of all of the propaganda campaigns. I have often said that if the Jesuits were running everything, these people would have to be working for them, to make the very concept look so incredibly stupid.
The Jesuit Agenda propaganda campaign largely appeals to Protestant Christians, who have had decades of priming in the theory that the Catholic Church is the Anti-Christ.
If we were to go back a few hundred years, we would find a world where the “Jesuits run the world” idea would hold a lot more water. For over a millennium, the Catholic Church was the main governing body of the Western world, driving virtually all of the wars of empire. The Catholic Church is still a reasonably influential institution of power, but over the last couple centuries, the torch has been passed on to secular forces, and the largest part of the world system is effectively run by banks, corporations, intelligence agencies and the military industrial complex.
It is worthy of note that a few months ago, a member of the Outlaw Forum did some digging, and uncovered the fact that the figurehead of the Jesuit propaganda movement, Eric John Phelps, through his company, Lowvehm, which also publishes his book, is involved in the trading of Israeli diamonds and the selling of New Age magic machines, along with “financial consultation”. I find it very interesting that a man involved in such lucrative business ventures would also be asking for donations on his webpage.
The Jesuit conspiracy believers are totally separated from reality, and incapable of making sense of anything that goes on in the world. They are also some of the most vitriolic and hateful promoters of infighting within the Truth Movement. However, many of them are reasonably informed about the various machinations of the system, and if they are able to sacrifice their egos and break their paradigm, deny their Israeli diamond merchant hero, and see the bigger picture, they too are capable of becoming effective members of a real opposition.
The Jews Did It
The view that the New World Order is entirely controlled by Jewish forces is erroneous, but more rooted in reality than any of the other popular conspiracy belief systems. It is well known to anyone who has even casually researched the subject of the global conspiracy that Jewish bankers play a monumental role in world events. The main problem with this belief is that it denies the ancient historical nature of what is happening, and also dismisses any evidence relating to people who are not Jewish as irrelevant.
People were oppressed long before the Jewish bankers came onto the scene. The entire history of human civilization consists of a singular system, in which a tiny elite minority rules over the masses of peasantry.
Many people promoting the concept of an entirely Jewish conspiracy, such as Darryl Bradford Smith, also routinely delve into various nonsense about China and Russia being controlled by different powers than the West, basing this on the idea that there are supposedly not Jews running said countries governments. This leads to a lot of confusion and unnecessary fear-mongering, as we are in fact already under a global system, controlled through the mechanisms I have already mentioned.
If in fact China and Russia are not controlled by the Jews these people rail against, than they are hard-pressed to make an argument that Jews are responsible for all evil in the world, as Russia, and particularly China, are extremely oppressive countries.
I have written an entire essay on the euphemistically titled “Anti-Zionist Movement”, so I will not go into it any further here.
The Zeitgeist Movement
The first Zeitgeist film contained some shoddy scholarship in its first segment about the historical nature of Christ, but was generally truthful. The second film however, Zeitgeist: Addendum, is promoting a bizarre science fiction future, where a communistic global government controls a utopia run by robots. The first film was apparently designed to set up a fan base to sell the weird religious ideology of the second film to.
Both films are heavily produced, having been back by some extremely questionable entities, and have been virally promoted across the web. Luckily, most of those who already understood the parts of the film that were true were informed enough to see through the neo-utopian communist propaganda the film promoted. Unfortunately, many people who found this information for the first time through the Zeitgeist films, due to their wide distribution, and are now liable to view any further information they look at regarding the global conspiracy through this tainted lens.
The idea of a communist utopia where everything is controlled by machines and no one works is particularly dangerous in a society where the majority of grown adults have been convinced they are without any manner of responsibility beyond working for a paycheck. These people have the mentality that they have the right to remain perpetual children, as they have been trained to believe that experts are running their lives for them, and they must simply let the big smart scientists deal with all of the issues that effect their lives. People who have swallowed this idea that there are people smarter and more capable than them running the world for the benefit of the masses are the intended audience of Zeitgeist: Addendum. If the machines take away the last piece of responsibility they retain, working for a paycheck, they will have nothing left to do but play their lives away.
The fact of the matter is that what they are promoting in Zeitgeist: Addendum is nothing short of the actual plan that the global elite intend to implement; the one that authors like Aldous Huxley, Bertrand Russell and H.G. Wells wrote about decades ago. It has also been written about extensively in Freemasonic, Rosicrucian, and theosophical works for at least a hundred years. The film however is quite misleading about the nature of this plan, as it leaves out large and extremely significant facts about the proposed future utopia.
Firstly it leaves out the natural fact that in order for a world government utopia to function properly, the lives of individuals would have to be heavily regulated by a monolithic control mechanism. For example, in a world free of disease, where technological means of life extension would obviously be prevalent, reproduction would have to be seriously regulated. This would entail Chinese style forced abortions and/or compulsory sterilization. In order to keep order in a singular system, the thoughts and beliefs of people would also have to be regulated. The old religions and ideologies would have to be outlawed so as to keep people from soiling utopia. This would initially require a vast military force and requisite “re-education”, as well as concentration camps and mass graves for those who were unwilling to be “rehabilitated”. And so on. This is something that seems obvious enough to anyone capable of critical thought, but the type of person who fantasizes about a utopian science fiction world is going to be prone to shutting off any psychological mechanism that would threaten this awesome flight of the imagination.
The film also negates to mention the part of the plan about killing off large portions of the general public who the planners feel are unfit to enter into their utopian New Age, which ties into the above mentioned necessity of eradicating all memory of the old system. The people planning this are elitist by nature, and thus have a deep rooted hatred for those they refer to as the herd. In a future where machines are capable of taking care of the labor once done by the herd, the herd will be eliminated. The masters of the world have no desire to expend resources just to allow you to play all day.
The bottom line is that any system with a centralized control mechanism, which a global government controlled by machines is the definitive example of, will inevitably be taken over by psychopaths. The entire history of civilization attests to this. In this case, it is the psychopathic elite planning this system, so the idea that it could somehow serve the people in a benevolent manner is light years beyond ridiculous.
People who believe that this technological utopia is a good idea are capable only of working for the agenda, not against it.
The Real Deal
When we look at recorded history, we see a virtually unbroken line of slavery. The huddled masses of the human species have been continually used as a means to an end by a psychopathic elite minority. We must realize that this is what we are fighting. It is not a specific group of people, nor is it some fantastical group of space creatures; it is a system of domination, behind which is an ideology of elitism and a religion that justifies it.
The future that is being planned for us is a nightmare, and our only viable option is to oppose it. This is nothing short of a battle for the survival of the human race.
I hope I haven’t offended anyone too deeply with my criticism of the various mainstream branches of this movement. I will ask you all again to think it through before dismissing it. In future articles I plan to delve deeper into the nature of the system, and what we can actually do to oppose it, but I felt it was necessary to first clear some of the nonsense out of the way.
I hope that you will all join me as I attempt to do my part to move our species into a future in which we can all live our lives out in peace, and pass that opportunity on to our children and the generations to come.
Stay Free.
–Andre
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This is the excruciatingly long awaited follow-up to my article Civil War is Decimating the Truth Movement.
With such a wide-ranging big-picture post, I am pleasantly surprised to realize that I can’t think of anything you have said that I disagree with. This hardly ever happens. If I comment on someone’s post, more times than not it is to point out where we differ.
Great post. Keep it up.
I do not find this article to be a comprehensive and coherent analysis of the challenges humanity faces, nor do I accede the author situational awareness to mandate positioning himself as a beacon for truthseekers.
Dimensions which I find utterly absent from his analysis are the ontological, psychological and sexual. He furthermore seems to speculate in the lack of knowledge about esoterics among his target audience and on that realization finds it convenient to simply skip dealing with the well documented matrix of secret societites and their hierarchically congruent structures which point to an elite of socially dysfunctional magicians so enmeshed in the karma of their actions that they find it easier to push for more pain and abuse to be dispensed than to attempt to ameliorate, the aim of this strategy being nihilistic catharsis.
There is nothing here that I haven’t commented on in the past.
Read Andre’s pithy & evasive comments to my posts at Outlaw Forum & consider who is the disinformer.
Especially here:
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2384
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2384&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
Also see:
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120
through till:
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1853&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=200
So what is Andre’s revelation of the way that things are being run? Who are his unnamed directors of the “secular”, scientific dictatorship?
He has repeatedly refused to take up the challenges laid down by my postings at O.F., preferring to stand on the sidelines & heckle.
Truly pathetic.
We learn nothing of Andre’s own understanding of what IS (as opposed to what he believes isn’t) the reality behind the New World Order.
He also falsely equates Dispensationalism with “Rapture” theory, Some forms can be, others can’t. The New Testament replacing the Old Testament is the most basic form of different “dispensations” in the Bible. Dispensationalism is inherent in the Bible, regardless of who did or didn’t understand it at different points over the past two millennia.
Andre also equates the whole notion of Roman supremacy over the NWO with Eric Jon Phelps & those who came to this understanding largely thanks to his work. This disregards the many whistleblowers & authors predating Phelps in the 20th century, including (Roman Catholic born) Edmond Paris, (Knight of Malta renegade) Avro Manhattan, (Jesuit whistleblower) Alberto Rivera, (Vatican whistleblower) Malachi Martin, F. Tupper Saussy, & many others.
This totally disregards the Vatican’s direction & propagation of the ecumenicalist movement to create it’s desired one world religion. It also disregards the provable, one power base that links Arab elites, the Israeli elite, European royalty & aristocracy & their America blueblood bastard cousins, with each other & with movers & shakers within religion, military, intelligence & politics.
Can Andre provide as comprehensive an analysis of the makeup of the NWO as I have provided below?
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/about/
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/10/05/franco-neapolitan-constantinian-order-royal-order-of-francis-i-members/
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/partial-list-of-vatican-loyal-suspected-911-orchestrators-executors/
http://leozagami.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/masonic-executive-committee-monte-carlo-lodge-universal-unity-p2-partial-members-list-2007/
Can he show how the Arab & Israeli elites are connected via mutual loyalties? No? Well as we can see, I have at:
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/category/papal-court-arabs/
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/category/papal-court-zionists/
Is this all merely the work of someone who gets all of his ideas from Eric Phelps? No it’s not. I credit Eric for a huge amount & I am appreciative of his crediting me for my own research.
Does Andre ever address the many tentacles of Rome when critiquing the Jesuit/Vatican expose arena? Those overt tentacles including Opus Dei, the Papal knighthood orders (St Gregory, St Sylvester, etc), the Papal-loyal Catholic knighthood orders (Knights of Malta, Constantinian Order, Knights of Columbus, etc)? Does he ever reveal how these are tied in with high-level NWO operations like Le Cercle & the EU, which all above-mentioned bodies are working to bring into being?
Has Andre ever addressed how Common Purpose are infiltrating every avenue of British society to bring about the Jesuit-designed EU? Nope. Has he adddressed my presentation of Common Purpose info? Not yet.
See:
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2461
Addressing the alien disinfo. Who is Sitchin associated with & who’s in harmony with his overall thrust: Monsignor Balducci of the Vatican. Why are many parts of the moon named after Jesuits? Why do the Jesuits & the Vatican have some of the best observatories in the world, in the US & Italy? Is this all coincidence? Of course not!
Who does Bush bow before? The Pope. Who does Obama & McCain sit on either side of at that most significant pre-election dinner? The Archbishop of New York - “the American Pope”, Edward Cardinal Egan, Knight of Malta, Constantinian Knight & Knight of Sts Maurice & Lazarus.
All roads lead to Rome. A cliche, but very, very true.
- TS
http://troyspace2.wordpress.com/
i really liked this, until we got to the part about Daryl Bradford Smith. in the zionism section, if you will. i dont know why you chose to link to the page you did when mentioning him. that almost killed the whole article for me right there. that whole situation was ridiculous and the work of provocateur Hufschmid. it also showed that Daryl is for real and got very passionate about Eric not fighting the good fight with him, and not having his back. he yelled at him for being an idiot, basically. i dont see the problem with this and i certainly dont see how anyone could still even be bringing it up, let alone making a fuss over it.
it did nothing at all to show that Daryl is somehow an agent. on the contrary it showed the opposite. so why you linked to that page, instead of Daryls site, i do not get. i see that as just a little more mud slinging in his direction, something im sure he is used to. he has been so spot on about so much, and has taken more abuse from the alternative media than anyone else i can think of, that to take away from him by linking to that garbage instead of his actual work, is really beyond me.
also, what you said about him in that paragraph is wrong in regards to russia and china. he does not say they are controlled by different forces that that which are controlling the west. in fact just the other day on a CII broadcast he said just that, that the same groups or interests controlling us in the west are indeed controlling those two specific countries. so for anyone to think russia is going to somehow save us from these bankers is ludicrous.
in one sentence just last week he said the opposite of what you are contending here.
because of this i am apprehensive about sending it along to friends. i do not want to promote these false views of Daryl, his work, and his site.
other than that i thought this piece was great
especially liked the zeitgeist run down. well said.
all in all this is a great piece of work, i agree with just about all of it, save the part on Daryl.
uh oh. another black pope character using leo zagami as a reference. lol
you people seriously are still buying his nonsense??
Terry,
Glad to here it. I have yet to thank you for posting my recent Obama articles. Your site is the only one of the larger conspiracy news sites willing to touch this stuff. Thank you.
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Halvor,
I don’t really understand your comment. This was an article specifically dealing with the issue of propaganda withing the movement. It was in no way meant to be a “comprehensive and coherent analysis of the challenges humanity faces”, nor was it intended to cover every aspect of conspiracy research, as that would fill hundreds of thousands of pages. I intend to expound on some of the issues you’ve mentioned in future articles.
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Troy,
I felt it necessary to go through what is not happening, before I make my case for what is happening. As I stated in the article, in future works I am going to go into exactly what I perceive the nature of this New World Order to be.
The history of dispensationalism is directly tied to the history of Rapture theology. This does not necessarily mean that everyone who believes in one believes in the other, though that is generally the case. This is agreed upon by scholars, not something I have simply made up.
I am sorry if I offended on you on the forum. These things certainly happen. I will try to be more cognizant of your feelings in the future.
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Byrd,
I suppose I should have linked his site. The reason I linked the audio clips I linked was that I think it gives an insight into the man’s character. He is clearly very concerned about being some type of popular internet media personality, and I this is something that is hard to reconcile with being a purveyor of truth. It seems as well that you should question anyone with a mouth like that, using such bizarre and filthy sexual language, while making repeated death threats. Also, I just find the clips to be ridiculously funny, probably one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard, and I like to share them with people. I mean when he kept talking about Bollyn’s kid seeing ghosts, I had tears in my eyes I was laughing so hard.
If DBS has changed his perspective on China and Russia, then I am happy to hear it. I was also happy to hear him mentioning chemtrails the last time I heard him. Again, my perspective on the basics of the way the control-grid functions is not too terribly far from his.
The Zeitgeist section was my favorite part of the article as well. I wondered if it shouldn’t have been it’s own article, as it is something that needs to be widely seen. If you like that part, you can post it by itself somewhere. Also, feel free to post the entire article, along with you criticism of it, as Khanverse has done here:
http://khanverse.com/news/2008/11/truth-movement-propaganda.html
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Thank you all for your thoughts. I am interested in collecting as many different perspectives as possible here in the comments section of this article.
One quick comment on the what mainstream Christianity believes. Yes, Yahweh will protect His People. However, it is the timing of events and the methods that He will employ that mainstream Christians have been mis-taught or not taught at all. This is something that they can blame on no one but themselves. It is dangerous to take the word of men and not pursue The One Who has all the answers to every question. In order to destroy something, it must be divided. In other words, “A house divided against itself will not stand.” This is what is being perpetrated against the so-called “church.” Whether they claim to be Non-denominational, Baptist, Catholic, etc., all have their doctrinal errors and wrong beliefs. They have all been infiltrated and corrupted from within to one degree or another. A little leaven leavens the whole lump basically. Many false shepherds guide the people in the wrong direction. That is what they have been placed there to do. Only those who truly have a personal relationship with their Creator will be made aware of this fact. Those who are referred to in Scripture as the Remnant are those who are being awakened to the corruption that has infiltrated every area of society and the church. Many have already been awakened and have come out of this corrupt system and are gaining understanding of the times we live in by leaps and bounds. I just wanted to point this out, as you only touched on the subject from the “cult christianity” prospective. You did not at all reference the fact that there is a growing group of Believers who know the Truth and understand what is taking place currently. They are also aware of and how things will be played out in the days ahead and are watching intently for the signs. Basically, He will protect His Remnant. The Scriptures clearly state that everyone will go through the 7 year Tribulation (which is quickly approaching). His people have always been persecuted by false religious systems, since the beginning of time to this present day to one degree or the other. His people will suffer persecution on a world-wide scale; however, during this specific 7 year period of time (especially the last 3 1/2 years) until the time towards the end of this 7 year period prior to His pouring out His wrath upon those who chose to serve lucifer and his false messiah, instead of loving, serving, and trusting the True Messiah. There are many who are persecuted now in countries like China, etc. However, this persecution will be on a mass scale for those who refuse to receive their computer chip in the hand or forehead to be able to do commerce in this NWO system that is approaching at full steam ahead. I just wanted to clarify that there are two sides to Christianity right now. There are those who will be totally apostate, who never really knew their Creator, who (when faced with the choice) will fold like a house of cards because they have built their beliefs on false information and have not prepared themselves for the reality of having to lay down their lives for Truth. And, there are those who have been awakened (many will be awakened in the days ahead) to the fact that they are being commanded to come out of the corrupt system(s) of the world (whether they be financial or spiritual) and separate themselves from the evil. All of this is happening because there is a war going on between good and evil. Evil will not prevail, even though it will appear at times to be winning. Thanks for letting me clarify the Christianity issue. There is apostate christianity and there are True Believers who do not believe the false rapture theory. So, hope this helps your understanding for that area of the article.
Someone posted a comment on this article in your myspace bulletin that is similar to what I would like to highlight.
Great work, yet as you cite there is Truth within the garbage, so we can’t throw it all away.
“They” use Hermetic and Kabbala systems of magic. That doesn’t mean that we can’t either. You don’t state this directly and this goes for many points within…I just want to point this out.
In business school I was taught strategies in a higher management/policy class. One of the (6?) were “co-opetition” or co-opting movements/brands/etc. I see this as one of the main methods and is suggested of be used if you can’t “contain” the threat.
There is much truth within “New Age” and I would even argue the “Alien Agenda” yet these movements have grown and cannot be contained. So we have the power structures becoming a part of said movements and perverting from within.
i understand where your coming from in regards to that Daryl/Eric fiasco, but i would have to respectfully disagree with your contention that he wants to be this popular internet character. he makes these points a lot. you dont have to like me, just look at my information. he knows he comes off as a dick from time to time, and i wouldnt think he could be that oblivious as to believe he could possibly become a popular internet hero. i truly believe he is uninterested in that, and sincerely just wants to get this info out.
of course i could be wrong but this is the way i see it. ive written him on two occasions in the past cpl years after hearing his voice and noticing how down he sounded in certain interviews. it happens, this is a thankless and stressful world he is in. he was very grateful for my kind words, and had nothing but nice things to say to me.
in any event, i do agree the audio clips are humerous, it just seemed like a shame for anyone not familiar with him to hear or see that stuff before any of his work.
i think hes the #1 voice against zionism and he gets very little credit.
anyhoo, i will pass the full article on for sure.
thanks again for writing it.
peace.
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Great article. Thank you for writing it up.
1. I don’t agree that DBS thinks China and Russia are independent of the system. Where do you get this from? Maybe I am wrong… please share.
2. Using that page (newsforthewest) as an attempt at character assassination is not an honest way about invalidating the information one provides. Quite deceptive on your part. Why would you not link to his site itself? It disappointed me to see this tactic used on an otherwise great article.
3. The ‘Jews’ are not alone responsible for the bad things, but they do play a large part, which I think you agree on, since you say: “The view that the New World Order is entirely controlled by Jewish forces is erroneous”, and from reading http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=16. You do not negate the current impact those so-called ‘Jews’ have in the current situation we find ourselves in. And yes, there are definitely other players in the game, even at this stage, but a semantic issue is always who is pulling the strings… those we can identify and see are at the level administrating things, i.e. a major portion of the financial system as you mentioned in anti-Zionist essay you wrote, or some hidden hands as some people propose. Proving hidden hands we cannot identify to be at the current steering wheel is like trying to prove the existence of something that cannot be proven, i.e. ‘God’. It doesn’t mean things are not the assumed unprovable way, but I prefer to go with evidence that suppositions and the like. If you have some to contradict the evidence that so-called self professed ‘Jews’ are in a majority position of influence in the current system, please share, as I am ignorant of it, sorry
When taking point #1 #2 into consideration on your rebuttal of ‘Jewish’ so-called control, your argument becomes rather weak, wouldn’t you say? Maybe an addendum to add a less intellectually dishonest tactic in needed if you are to convince others. I think just putting the link to the anti-Z essay would be best. For the record, I agree with you. But, personal character discrediting is not required though, is it?
And it is a relatively new part (the ‘Jews’ in major positions of control) from the accepted chronology of history and the accepted accounts of history. Do you believe everything you are told about history? Including the so-called ‘hidden’ history? How do you know what is real about historic accounts? I recommend looking into something called ‘New Chonology’ by Fomenko. If you are not dogmatic and are in search of an accurate and logical representation of ‘truth’, it can open up avenues of investigation to understand how great of a deception we are in, in regards to the complexity and capacity of fabrications and falsification of history. He uses mathematical and statistical analysis to bring doubt and suspicion about some accepted accounts and overall chronology of our current human history.
On them elitist desire of a minority to control the majority, another direction of research I have briefly looked at, but not properly, is called Ponerology.
Thank you for the article once more. Everyone should read it. My problem in this piece is with the tactic used to discredit someone. I believe the Khanverse forum had an accusation against you for being a drug user, as if using that honest or fictitious piece of info relating to your persona invalidates your research? Can you see how you have just done the same thing? I hope you will be more intellectually honest in the future when you choose to contradict or oppose a certain perspective or piece of information someone else presents.
Peace.
Angela,
I am glad you have a faith that comforts you. I am weary of the concept that “Yahweh” will protect all Christians, given the fact that Christians are presently being tortured and executed in China. It seems that the idea that God will save you from harm only works if you are not being harmed.
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Remir,
I think we are going to need a better solution that using magic powers to stop what is happening in the world.
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Azixx,
1.) Byrd also said that DBS is no longer promoting the idea of Russia and China being independent countries. I have not listened to his show in a very long time, but last I did, he was pushing the idea that Russia was fighting the Jews. Possibly the appointment of Dmitry Medvedev made this position a bit more difficult. I can see no point when the powers that controlled the Soviet Union were ousted, and this was certainly an almost exclusively Jewish cabal. I have always thought that Putin is probably Jewish as well, though that is ultimately of little consequence.
2.) I do not think that linking to a conversation a man had can be construed as “character assassination”, or any other manner of defamation. I did not link to anyone I discussed here’s site. I linked to the DBS recordings because I believe it is important to understand the moral character (or lack thereof) of anyone aspiring to be a leader of men.
It is also quite flawed to suggest that a person’s character is irrelevant when analyzing the information they put out. If this were true, than the fact that Eric Phelps is an Israeli diamond merchant would also be irrelevant.
3.) I do not believe that Jews alone rule the world. They share the ideology of the Mystery Religion, the theology of which is the driving force behind what is happening in the world. We are not fighting a specific group of individuals, but a system of rule, and of thought. This system existed long before a Jew held office in a government or ran a bank; it existed before the Jewish religion.
I did not expand my criticism of the “Anti-Zionist” movement here, as I have already written an entire essay on the subject, which is linked above.
1. Point taken, he probably changed his tune.
2. If you look at the purpose of this article: to show the deception in each movement that clouds the issue we need to focus on, is this accurate? When bringing up EJP diamond trading, it is not character assassination, it is showing evidence of his affiliation with Israel which may explain his inability or desire to cover the ‘Jewish’ angle properly. It shows a reason why he cannot/will-not cover a certain topic of information everyone should be aware of. Because he is making money by not doing so!
So making a comparison between an affiliation with a criminal entity and the mental or emotional character of a person is not-accurate/is-falwed, can you see this? One is related to the inability for the person to present the truth because of money making ties with the criminal state that should be exposed as such, while the other is not. If you had information that showed DBS was affiliated with Israel, or some Zionists, etc, then that would be information that would possibly enable others to understand an agenda he might have in perpetuating a narrow perspective on the overall agenda (and then your above comparison would be accurate because they would be dealing with the same level of attempting to show the reasons why someone cannot be trusted to honestly present information). But this is not the information you are presenting. Does this make sense? EJP is not honest and we can show why. Right? DBS is honest in what he tries to do, he just may lack the capacity to understand things or see them in the way you do, or I do, or others do (for various reason we can surmise, emotional, psychological, etc, etc). Does this make sense to you?
Also, you did not acknowledge the similarity in tactic of what someone posting at Khanverse in regards to your possible drug use to attempt to discredit your value as a researcher/information disseminator, and the similar tactic of showing DBS as a weak minded emotional person in private conversations. They are both attempts to discredit the value of an argument the respective persons are attempting to represent (which differs from addressing the personal emotional integrity of a person vs the personal criminal affiliations they have). You could have shown how DBS was not accurately presenting the ideology simply by linking your anti-Z essay (which you did), as I stated above also. But, if your attempt was to show that DBS as a person is not stable (possibly as a leader as you perceive him to be attempting to attain the status of), then you have merit on those grounds, but that was not the purpose of the piece you wrote here was it? It was to show the problems with the conclusions drawn in each respective movement and how it was not accurate on the whole of the conspiracy. But I will say again, I do agree with your take on DBS not addressing the other aspects, but the manner in which you went about it was and is my issue here.
Is DBS trying to be a leader of men? Are you? I think you have listened to more DBS than me, please let me know if you have indeed heard DBS claiming to be a leader, or why you perceive him to be attempting to attain or hold onto such a position?
3. I pretty much agree. I was pointing out how to identify those who are at the helm NOW, not who invented it, which I agree would not be the so-called or self styled ‘Jews’ of our era. But in the anti-Z essay you make the claim:
“The issue is one of economics as a brutal system of mass control, not of race, religion, or anything else.”
So what I was saying in my previous point, is how do you identify who is controlling it NOW (not who invented it). Power changes hands. What identifiable group is at the helm of this economic system which you put a large amount of importance on? Can it be identified? Look at who is in the positions to administer and manage our current system! Are there others above them? Maybe! But to assume such is the case is simply an assumption unless there is evidence to prove it, even if it is true (which is what I was attempting to show in my previous comment with the ‘God’ analogy.
So to reiterate, I have not been talking about who invented it, or who was there managing/administrating things before the ‘Jews’, I am talking about what we can see and prove in our time NOW. Who is at the helm making sure things go well? Many people. And of those, many are ‘Jewish’, and those that are ‘Jewish’ do appear to have a disproportionate amount of influence and power in this system. Does this analysis make sense? Please elaborate how it does not in respect to who is administrating things NOW, not who invented it (which is important in itself but besides the point here). The association between the inventor and the administrator is not necessarily an existing chain at this current time in history, unless you could prove that those who invented this system are still around and actually controlling those who currently have the mind-virus - theology, thought - of elitism and control over the lesser ones.
Or was it not a specific group that created it in the first place, and therefore it could never be traced back to an original source? I would like to know.
“It is also quite flawed to suggest that a person’s character is irrelevant when analyzing the information they put out. If this were true, than the fact that Eric Phelps is an Israeli diamond merchant would also be irrelevant.”
i have to say man, the differences between DBS being a bit of a dick, and Phelps selling Israeli diamonds, are incomparable.
on one hand we are talking about a personality, vs the actions of a man selling blood diamonds through a terrorist racist state.
surely we cannot compare these in the same breath.. or liken them i should say.
either way, DBS is not hurting anyone by yelling at people. whereas Phelps is a whole different story.
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Outstanding article!
If I may make so bold, allow me to contribute the following interviews. Paul and I provide a critique of the 9-11 Truth Movement at the following URLs:
http://beyondthegrassyknoll.com/audio/neopagan1.mp3
http://beyondthegrassyknoll.com/audio/neopagan2.mp3
http://threshingfloor.onevoicemm.net/weblog/?p=1169
http://threshingfloor.onevoicemm.net/weblog/?p=1173
Again, good work!
Phillip D. Collins
Hey Andre, I added this one as well. Good article, Im glad we see The Venus Project for what it is. It seems the more mainstream alternative news sites are working against us. Its important for us to stick together. You can submit articles to be on my site yourself in the future.
http://waronyou.com/2008/11/propaganda-is-making-the-truth-movement-totally-irrelevant/
Andre
I am a Christian and appreciate your article very much. Particularly your comments on Dispensationalism. I was a Dispensationalist for years but after doing a fair amount of research and teaching have since rejected this doctrine. The result of that research was an article I wrote on Dispensationalism. You can find it at
http://www.pyrabang.com/view.php?ref=jimgray1214&post_id=2111
Thanks for getting out the truth. Jim
I would also like a more substantive article about the Zeitgeist: Addendum.
I watched the film several times to try to get to the bottom of the widespread belief that it is endorsing communism, world government, population control, and all the rest of it.
I’m very familiar with the new world order agenda and their devious plans. But even IF the makers of Zeitgeist are part of that plot, it seems highly speculative. When you actually watch and listen to the film, it does actually denounce elitism, communism, fascism, and government.
I don’t necessarily agree with the Venus Project and their ideas about society, but I think they’re honest in their beliefs about a better society without corruption, without a power-elite.
I just want to know why and how people are so sure that it’s really part of the agenda to “brainwash” us into accepting the nwo. Is there any real evidence for this, or just speculation?
Very good article. You all most had me there for a moment. Well done! May I suggest that this article is very materialistic in nature mixing materialistic, religious values with spiritual values as the same and I can tell you this is a falsehood. The truth movement as associated with the 911 TRUTH movement has been carefully avoided here and this obviously omission is a shear give away. By combining the TRUTH movement as all the subjects mentioned in the article with the actual movement without taking about is is Propaganda at its best. You know thats a TRUTH movement they are Propagandists we don’t believe them LOL..
Alien technology has been here much longer than 1949 (Roswell) and the evidence is stagering so I am not sure that your explanation is total effective on this point either.
Also providing cover for the involvement of the the HOLY SEE is a dubious argument as it is known “Power corrupts and total power corrupts totally”. I believe history will show that the Mother (Harlot) Church has been in total power for some time as can be seen by all leaders bow to Her power. The protecting of Child Molesters, American Indian Holocaust, Inquisition, founding of Communism is not enough of a reason to let them off the hook. And She has been around a lot longer than Freemasons. Again this seem less than genuine.
Pointing out the obvious about the infiltration into “NON TRUTH MOVEMENTS”, and groups, the sponsorship of movement leaders by the supposed enemy who support the NWO agenda is a complex play of half NON-TRUTHS will buy you very little in making your points. As this it self is a propagandized statement in its self as it tags the TRUTH movement with other NOT SO TRUTHFUL MOVEMENTS to discredit both. Good move!
It would have been better to give real examples of what is said and why it is wrong to correct the mistake rather than throwing everything into one basket and calling it all BS. The fact the article threw no explanations why the point proposed are untrue but rather attacks the messenger like Eric John Phelps with the statement right up front of the section “a very silly snake oil salesman” and then his name and then what he said is a an excellent example of Jusuit Propaganda methods not so artfully used. As this statement to a person living in the spirit comes across as abusive, disrespectful, and vindictive spoken about someone who backs up everything with historic records unlike your unsupported attack on his person and not his work.
The attack used here is on many levels leading me to believe the intent of the article is two fold. Discredit the Real 911 TRUTH movement and to assist in destroying Eric John Phelps name and even putting a sublimal message for people NOT TO BUY HIS BOOK, I quote “It is almost impossible to believe that anyone buys this stuff”. Mr. Phelps weaves a very well done and well documented trail to show all roads lead to ROME and the Harlot who lives there.
As you most likely can tell I live in the spirit and am aware of truth by knowing not thinking. Knowing is 360 and thought is only from a single perspective. As such, I know 2012 brings great promise to mankind and I know the dawn will bring an end to much that humans currently fear. Fear will be no more as people will be capable living without it.
Your dialog on why we should be afraid was another give away to the propaganda style of fear mongering and if one is to believe your article there is no hope and they can kiss their butts good bye. NOT SO! We are entering the most wonderful time imaginable and there is truly no need to be afraid as fear clouds the mind and prevents action and yes only makes things worse. There are so many indicators being discovered on a daily basis that show that matter is less than tangible and that the human mind is extremely powerful at creating our environment. That said there is every reason to know things are getting better every day and soon the darkness that infects this world will be banished by the coming light as we enter 2012.
Nice Try…I am not buying it.
Where’s sensationslist bullshit artist Alex Jones fit in this article? Why no mention of him? Why is Bill Cooper listed in the Patriot part? He of all people was telling the truth to the best of his ability. Alex Jones should be there not Bill Cooper. Sorry but this shoots the credibility of this whole article to pieces. Alex Jones did more to destroy the Patriot movement aspect more than anybody. Read about the Parking Lot incident on him. Jarhead Jones anyone?:)
A comprehensive account of the phenomena known as the “Truth Movement” and “New Age”. I’m hoping that seekers everywhere read this because it is important for them to know the information contained in the article. Unfortunately, many of the concepts they hold as truths are not discreet entities, but are social and cultural formations created by human beings with fundamentally egotistical and elitist goals.
Adherents and seekers and the public in general need to investigate for themselves this information and see how the systems and philosophies were created and what the future plans of the Elitists are. Maybe their lives depend on it.
Andre has a firm grasp on reality and sensibility and there are many others of us out there that can help people understand the facts and the real truths or at least provide a more solid foundation for understanding.
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Andre ,
Thanks for your awesome thoughtful posts .
I seem to feel that we have a kindred spirit among a very few of us that are not consumed by this ,or neither controlled by it . I hop ethat we can find a way to overcome this evil with Good ..It does come to that evil and Good . Light and darkness Truth and light . I believe the Truth will prevail in those that find it . But then again i don’t think that enough people even care about more than the daily food they eat for it to matter to them . It boils down to who will sell their birthright to freedom for a morsel of meat ! More people than we can ever imagine will sell out for that last meal . Its sad but you have to be honest with yourself they mostly live like animals anyway . Not much critical thinking that goes on before actions
Stanley Farmer Jr
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Seems you throw away the good with the bad.
In the Netherlands we have a proverb saying:
‘het kind met het badwater weggooien’
Literally saying ‘throwing away the baby together with the water that washed him’ and proverbally means: ‘when cleaning out you shouldn’t let your enthousiasm get the better of you. Before you know it you’ve thrown away the real valuables along.
The challenge is to keep seeing clear even if those so-called real valuables were somewhat the cause of you needing to clean up in the first place.
I agree Angela. Most of the church is apostate & there is but a small remnant & I count myself as one of those. I’m just getting an old friend to see the heresy of Bentley & Howard Browne & all those guys pedalling afflicting spirits too, for an article on that check this link, http://bibleprophecyrevealed.us/wp/?p=84
The stage is being set on chanels like TBN & CBN for the great apostasy when most christians will run after the Son of Perdition & worship him. All thos leaders who in ways profess Christ yet deny him in their lives are setting the proving grounds for reaping the great apostasy.
I’ve been listening to these two prophets for about 6 months. These guys pull no punches on the apostasy. I quit church in like 2002 cuz I just couldn’t stand the pharisees anymore, then went through a really dry time & just started really amping it up for Jesus since about June 2008.
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/gammadim/
http://www.propheticwatchmanvine.com/vineintr.htm
Interesting…
What is new is often quite old. The problem is with the very existance of a “Truth Movement” itself, it becomes a juggernaught and attracts dead weight and is easily co-opted.
I confess to having no solutions other than awareness and cooperation. Many people have an intense spiritual thirst, the new age comes pre-packaged to slake this thrist at the lowest common denomenator, giving us a spirituality taht makes no demands of the ego, of the self, requires no true compassion for those suffering the worlds ills, and making those who adopt it impotent on the political scale.
One very good, rigorous (though not without his biases) and OFTEN over-looked sources on the history of Theosophy, and the proto-new age in 19th centruy Europe is Rene Guenon.
1. “The Spiritist Fallacy” published by sophia perennis press contains not only a cogent and well documented critique of the practice of “channeling” and mediumship, while exploring its dangers and revealing interesting bits about the possible agendas of those pushing such matters, but also has one of the best histories on the development of this movement in franc and england.
2. “Theosophy: History of a Pseudo-religion” Parts of it were on Google books, this work gives an in-depth history of theosophy, Blatavsky, and drops some bombs that few know of. The kicker is that these books are decades old and generally ignored even by afficanados of guenon. For many reasons Guenon is not considered intellectually respectable, but one does not have to agree with his world view to see the immense value of what he does disclose.
If I were female i’d ask to have your baby! This is something that has been bugging me for a bit. Thanks for making it out! Now maybe we can get the group ORGANIZED! Too much infighting, bickering, and fragmentation! Divide we FALL!
This is only my opinion, as biased and incomplete it may be …I keep in mind that since the the truth changes constant this will change (thats the beauty of the truth). The overall basis for the realization I see you are trying to get out there is that we are all responsible…
That responsibility is for ourselves and for each other and for the organism that we live on (in what ever dimension being always connected).
If we are “all one” then we should do our individual parts to be conscious co-creators no matter what propaganda based background we came from. The part you wrote about the patriot movement stands out to me.
There is no reason to be fearful, we will all continue to exist just as we always have. Working together is a constant we can keep afloat with, and ignoring and dis attaching from all of these fear based movements, yes even the new age movement because it still put energy into the fear by rejecting it…. You can always tell the truth because there will be no question, you will not have to ruminate over it in your mind because you will understand on a very basic level…we are all already there, its simple. Thank you I appreciate this…
And remember to relax.
yep i know i guy whos sucked into the new age religion shit and he cannot comprehend reality anymore…
much of your article is complete bullcrap. you evidently have not yet experienced enough of life to have broken down your own indoctrinated blinkered world view. I have experiential evidence of communication with extra terrestrials. I have had training to be able to do this. I am and I associate with people who Icke mentions in his work on lizard people and I can verify most of what he is saying. I have experience of this. I do not believe SItchen is accurate in his translations because he mis~interprets some fundamental symbols to emphasize his conspiracy theory. I am a truth seeker. the very first hieroglyphic translation I made is “we see as we say” which is assyrian~egyptian jaguar priesthood for ‘tell the truth to know the truth’. it has other levels of interpretation also.
you have not backed up any of your moaning arguments with verification to deny these things. this is because you cannot. even if they are make belief, you would not be able to deny them. the truth is not quite what the conspiracy theorists proclim. but they are not far from it. I wish you luck in your journey of enlightenment. you are full of frustrations and fear because the darker you go in your rvelations the closer you come to understanding Reality and how vastly different it is to your ego indoctrination. this reinforces the safety comfort net of most humans who dare not embrace the shadow to such depth. I suggest you use spirit mushrooms, psilocybine or cacti to break down the rigid grip of your mind. the alternate paradigms are real. our mind filters experience through our belief system which is why indoctrination and is why shamen use mind expanding drugs; to decay the filters, to know all. there is no self when we observe infinity; there is only infinity; the void. all particle grains are liminal, they have an edge. only the void is immortal. this is what energy is. this is what we are. disbelief and discrediting will not deny infinity. relax man, its all good.
So WHO are the people behind this great conspiracy? Who are these “global elites” you talk about?
And your solution to return to a “hunter/gatherer” way of living is ridiculous!
I don’t want my children to live in a tent and have to go out and hunt and be scavangers are you fucking retarded or something?
In the U.S. the only solution is to educate the people and organize them to force our elected leaders to change our tyrannical laws and boycott the businesses of these “global elites” to crush them economically.
lol, guess I’m about a year late in replying, Tom, but I gotta say, you’re really on the ball. I’m gonna write my congressman today! We should have this thing wrapped up by the end of the week!